Tuesday, December 10, 2013

12/10/13

Today you are going to spend time not only writing a comment on this post but also reading through other comments from today and days prior and offering your comments.

What is one question you have about the novel so far and what is one insightful and thought-provoking comment you would like to share?


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  1. One question I have about the novel so far is why the colonels are so interested in Ender's private life, such as how they want him to save the world, and should be interested in that, but rather, are invading his thoughts and his emotions, not allowing him any space to himself although they do to other children.

    An insightful and thought-provoking comment I would like to share is how Valentine started to talk to Peter and join his plans. I felt that it was very unexpected of her to be persuaded to help Peter and be on his side. It was fairly surprising that although she knew she was betraying Ender, she still helped Peter out, and it was shocking when even her father had read her online articles under her undercover name "Demosthenes."

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    1. Valentine is only doing this because of the lack of Ender in the family. Valentine still cares for Ender and wants for him to avoid Peter.

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    2. Valentine is actually helping Peter because she believes it is the only way to keep herself safe. Peter only acts out of self-interest and as long as Valentine is of use to him then he will not hurt her.

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  2. Will the entire I.F. ice Ender? Will Ender learn the truth? There is the one point where Ender is stuck having to face Bonzo alone. Ender showed signs of strategy and strength.

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    1. I.F. wouldn't ice Ender because he is their strategic mastermind needed to win the so-called Third invasion that is supposed to be coming.

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  3. In the beginning of the story, a commander comes and takes Ender away, and he's suppose to persuade Ender to join their side, but he speaks more in Ender's favor, if that makes any sense, and i'm wondering why that is?
    Since in class we've been talking about human nature very often, I was thinking that Ender is the living proof of our own conscience because we often get an insight into his reasoning behind tactics and events, and it's like a little voice in the back of your head, but in the book. The author is trying to, possibly, make us more aware of our thinking, or there lack of.

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    1. Colonel Graff took Ender away yes, but it was for a cause. The cause is not certain why but I give you this "Remember, the enemy's gate is down."

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    2. in my opinion, the commander speaks of Ender's family because he wants to make sure Ender knows what he will be losing or missing. Despite the fact that he will be taking Ender away, I feel that the commander might regret losing his own family and wants Ender to understand that.

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  4. Do you think it was a good choice for Ender to decide to leave home and attend the training? why or why not?
    I feel that Ender's character is a symbol for children and teenagers today. He is faced with having to make a hard decision that will alter his life forever. Although he does choose to attend the training, he shows signs of being frightened but manages to hide his feelings like when he says "you taught me how to hide anything i felt. More than ever, I need that now". Although many of our daily life problems arent this intense, I feel that children and teens today are faced with many pressures and are given no choice but to hide how they feel and barrel through it.

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    1. I think that Ender's choice although comes with great sacrifice, was the best thing for him as an indivdual. Going to the training allowed him to escape the severe problems that he faces with Peter. Now not only is Ender safe from the abuse but he is learning at camp, how to be strong and how to protect himself which I think will benefit him in many senarios.

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  5. One question I have about Ender's game is how can the military leaders expect so much out of Ender and perfection in his training and progression, if they were unable to do the things he is? I don't understand how they completely control every part of his life and change things to break him and although it is for the good of everyone, how can they risk his mental health. They don't know one day how he may react.

    I really like how Ender's family is still reported on through out the book even though much of the focus is on him. I also find that Ender's maturation is incrediable in its quick rate of change and how he is changing as a person. Through the manipulation of his leaders, he is forced to change and not only become a leader but has to change his morals. Ender changes from a shy boy who uses self defense to one who is killing before people see him. I think this is an exaggerated version of what happens everyday to everyone else. We are forced into new enviornments and situations and do what ever we have to in order to be happy and successful.

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    1. I really agree with Nicole. I think that you cannot expect kids to be able to handle the pressures of saving the world because there mind is not developed enough. It shouldn't be expected that every family has a child that is able to fight off the buggers.

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  6. Why do the adults in Ender's Game think that 6 year olds are capable of saving the world from aliens? Is there something wrong with the parents that they can't fight?

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    1. I completely agree. This is a senseless plot line that the author utilized because he is truely uncreative and lazy. I still don't see why this was optioned Lionsgate.

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    2. The adults are too busy going on christian mingle and farmers meet. This leaves them incapable of fighting.

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    3. They choose kids because children are more malleable. It is easier to get a child to do something than it is to get an adult to do something. By choosing children they will have more experience than at twenty than another twenty year old who started at age 18. Therefore they will have a lot of experience when they reach their physical prime.

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    4. They chose kids because they can adapt better to the new technology that is continually changing. they are also very easy to manipulate.

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  7. So far through the story it's hard to remember that Ender is but a child, his techniques and the way he thinks make it even more difficult. Has Ender lost his Childhood, is it too late for him to regain it?

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    1. I think that because of the amount of time that Ender has spent in training that he has lost his childhood indefinately. It is my personal opinion that once you have "killed" someone whether actually or in the case of the game in the novel, you will never be the same person. Childhood is a time of innocence and free of worries and Ender's life right now is the complete opposite.

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    2. I think that Ender was manufactured to think differently from the normal child. Since he was a third, he was born to be a fighter and to make his family proud. Ender had that box on his neck that probably altered his thinking strategies. I hope that Ender can one day have a childhood or else he might turn into a Miley Cyrus.

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    3. I think Ender can't go back to his childhood. Now that they raised him to think tactfully and thoroughly, he can't make himself more simple-minded. He would always revert back to how he is now. Whether or not he likes it, his mind is very grown up in educational way (not in a personal way, he still doesn't know what all his emotions mean).

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    4. I don't think that Ender can go back to his childhood. I think that he was made for war, and not to grow up normally. He isn't a child anymore, he is a commander.

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    5. No, Ender is no longer pure or innocent, he knows more than a child should at his age. Once you give a child information its hard to take that away from them. All Ender has heard throughout his childhood is that he must learn to fight in battles. Ender is like a grown up now and can never turn back to being a normal child like everyone else.

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    6. there wasn't any childhood to begin with. they put the moniter on once the kid is born, so there is no sense of childhood. he was a lab rat under tight observation ( he was an experiment).

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    7. Ender might actually be holding onto his childhood, because he still looks forward to becoming a good person and being happy. Ender's grasp for innocence can be seen every time Ender is forced to hurt someone in order to survive. Ender always feels bad about having to go through such a coarse stage in life that shouldn't even be a part of him. Since Ender had always suffered sadness after hurting someone, i believe that Ender is still innocent and wants to exploit his childhood. He is simply put against it by so many people.

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  8. I'm curious why ender chose the name god when he makes fun of Bernard. I feel that he did this to show how powerful he truely is.

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    1. I feel like he chose GOD because he wanted to remind Bernard that even though he felt like he was the big man on campus, there would always be a higher power ruling him.

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  9. One question I have had throughout the book is why they call Ender Ender? They say that his name is Andrew and his mother gets a little angry at the commander when he calls him that, but I don't recall them saying why he was nicknamed Ender. It could be because he was the final child.
    A comment that I have is that Ender has better problem-solving skills than most adults that I know. He is precise and thinks everything through. Most of the things he does are tactical, purposeful. He doesn't take anything lightly.

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    1. That is a really good point! I think that they might call Ender "Ender" because he is the last child to save the world, almost like they might have done this before hand.

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  10. One question i have about the novel is why there hasn't been more children like Ender that they have made to run armies?
    And one insightful comment is that how Ender is being treated like an adult and he is having depression and abliviousness toward everything. The isolation made him into a machine, for how he is treating his own army is how the first commander had treated him. He cannot control what power is doing to him, and that is an aspect of human nature. To thirst for power and want to feel accomplished.

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    1. I think that they haven't entrusted more children to armies is because they haven't been the prodigy that they are pressuring Ender into being. Whether or not he is as special as they say he is, they seem to be running out of time and growing desperate. Ender is their last best hope to beat what they believe is their greatest enemy.

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  11. Can Peter's motives be trusted at all? Even Valentine questions whether or not his remorse was real. However, it's hard to think that he should ever be completely trusted because of how manipulative he's been.
    Ender's success so far seems to stem from open-mindedness. He's able adapt to new environments and not be held back by old ways of thought, such as gravity. These traits could also be a reason for using children in the first place. When people are young they are more malleable and can be molded into the perfect soldier.

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    1. No, I don't trust anybody, never trust anybody

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  12. Almost at the end of chapter nine on page 149 Graff syas "Valentine, my dear little girl, the terrible things are only about to begin". I found this strange and terrifying becuase what could be more worse than being taken away from your family as a child and being put into a battle school. I want to know what Graff wants to gain from Ender and what is his plan if it does not work out the way he planed?
    In the novel i noticed that ender has had a connection with Alai and has been Enders best friend because Alai is kind of like a brother Ender wish he had growing up back home and Alai reminds Ender of Valentine. i feel bad for Ender because In chapter 10 Ender is given his own army to control and his friendship with Alai dies away and he realizes that just like he lost Valentine to the battle school he also lost Alai to it to and their friendship will never be the same because of it. This happens to peopel alot of times in real life. When you start speding alot of time apart and you never get to see each other, you grow apart and change.

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  13. Why do the adults let the kids in charge of the army have so much power? Do you agree with this desicion or do you think that the kids should have less power than they currently do?
    This comment was provoked when Bonzo ordered Ender not to participate during the battles. Also when Ender went to the Rat army he wasn't allowed to use his desk until he successfully shot two people in the same battle. I get that kids need to follow orders to make a good army but that should stay in the Battle Room. I thought that the kids in charge shouldn't be able to run kids lives.

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  14. Well why are people putting so much pressure into Ender? He is just a child not a hero that is going to instantly save the world all of a sudden. People instantly make quick first impressions about everyone at first sight without even knowing them. I mean people should get to know the person first and their abilities before making quick judgments. Especially a child who is barely starting his life and doesn't even know if he wants to continue on with this battling school for the rest of his life. What if he decides to leave all of sudden and go back home or what if does stays at the instance but then decides to leave and start a life of his own back in Earth. There are endless possiblitites that cna happen at any instant and no one knows for a certain. I am sure that Ender isn't the only special student that has these special capacities, I am sure that in the future there will other gifted students who will be capable to show great skills and intelligence just like him, maybe they are the ones to suceed and make a better commander than what Ender could possibly be.

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    1. I think they put so much pressure on him because they know he is capable of so much. I don't see him as a child. I don't think his age represents him because he's more open minded and observant than a lot of adults are and the adults know that. I think a lot could be told about him when he first had his monitor put on, they knew the type of person he was when it was taken off. They think they know whjo Ender is. They may even be under estimating him.

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  15. What do you think will happen to ender, after the war is won (assuming it will be.) Would he go back to Earth and live out his lost childhood, or would he stay and put his tactical genius to work for the rest of his life as a commander?

    As for a comment, Ender seems to have more willpower than most normal people do, and at such a young age. I doubt that many adults would be able to withstand the rigor of the week of battles as the Dragon Army, and still keep up their mental aptitude. In fact, the children all seem to possess an almost supernatural ability to survive.

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    1. I think that with what Ender has gone through, he would likely have a heavy amount of disdain for the Military. However it would probably be incredibly difficult for him to readjust to society since he grew up in a war like environment.

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  16. I understand why Graff is interested in Ender, he is the analytic cool-headed killer. A leader perfect to command a fleet, someone who will keep a clear view of the battlefield to execute war changing maneuvers but not soft enough to hesitate slaughtering the enemy. Also as a child when he began he has a different view from the rest. The moment he saw Bonzo lead an army he picked at all the flaws and learned from all the perfect orders. He had figured how to pass the giant, something the makers made to be impossible.

    A question that bugs me is why are they moving Ender up so quickly, it does not look like he can learn all he needs to learn before fighting the buggers. I would also like to know more of the wars history.

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  17. The blatant disregard that the higher-ups have for the individual soldiers and the battle tactics used by the aliens echos the militaristic thinking of communistic strategists. They do what is necessary to win the battle at the costs of countless lives.
    Also, is training children really the best solution, or is it the best solution because it is the only choice?

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    1. Training children allows them to easily form the ultimate warrior, especially since the minds' of children are like sponges, taking in everything they learn. Also, early in the book, it is mentioned that the government only allows certain people to have children because they want the genetically best
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  18. I was wondering why you think there aren't more females in the book? I know there was Petra, but I felt she was shown as a very strong willed character. I would think that there would be more females like her throughout the novel. Besides Petra, all the women seem too gentle.
    One insightful comment I have was on Enders confidence. Ender is continously being pushed hard and harder, even the Colonels know it must be rough on him, but he continues to believe in himself and his abilities. I think it's a very strong characteristic about Ender. It's what has been helping Ender doing as well as he is. He is confident enough in himself to push through all situations.

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    1. I think that many of the girls at this time are like Valentine. They may be just as smart as their male peers, but as children they show too much compassion.

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    2. Females are portrayed as much in the book because they are not as cold-hearted as their male peers, Valentine is not insane like Peter, but is just as smart/cunning as he is. They have the tools, but they rather not use them.

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    3. ^ i tots agree with Carlie. but i think since we are in the begining of the book, i think new characters will be introduced.

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  19. I was wondering why Ender continued to want to be a soldier and fight a war that was not his, after Valentine told him to go back because of fear for her life. This is confusing because Ender knows that what Valentine says is really the words of Graff. He also realizes that the teachers are actually his enemy and not the "buggers". So then why does he continue to fight for an unverified cause?

    "Everybody thinks Hitler got to power because of his armies, because they were willing to kill and that's partly true, because in the real world power is always built on the threat of death and dishonor. But mostly he got to power on words, on the right words at the right time." P.131
    I think Orson Scott Card is trying to show how very effective language can be in establishing power. Every character in the book is judged by the words that they say. Peter is represented as diabolical because of his ability to transform into an innocent child who loves Valentine as opposed to a psychopath that threatened to kill his own brother. Valentine speaks with love and and humanity which reflects her sympathetic character. Ender, who is a boy of little words lets his actions speak for him and the few things that he says is a reflection on his strength and inhumane control.

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  20. In the novel, the buggers are an important part of the theme.The buggers are similar to aliens.In the story, the buggers are described as intelligent individuals and Ender even studies their tactics.The buggers try to invade earth and Ender is set to stop them. The aliens only wantd peace and it was all a confusion, but it was all too late because their population was wiped out.I think that this shows how humans always think of themselves as superior of anybody else. This also reminds me of how humans takeover many things. For example,I think of the buggers like animals or a similar type of specie. If you think about it, humans took over most of the world and took away many habitats of different species. This is also related to the Martian Chronicles, where the Humans tried to invade Mars without the Martians consent. In both books, the idea of humanity being superior reappears and it makes me think of what's the significance of it.
    Why are the buggers called buggers? What do you think the significance of the buggers are in Ender's Game?

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  21. My question is:

    Ever since Ender was forced in the I.F. at age 6, he has been true to his feelings and felt sad all the time because he was forced into making terrible actions in order for him to survive his environment.

    Why does Ender still hold on to his feelings, even after four years?
    Are his emotions his only reminder of his sanity?

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  22. It seems almost realistic that the I.F. mistreats Ender by isolating him and putting him through obstacles in order to prepare himself for the bugger war.

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  23. How does the game produce Peter's current image, if no one ever made it as far as Ender has?

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    1. They produce Peter's image even though Ender is the farthest in the game, as a way to test his ruthlessness. They assume since they are family Ender care about his brother, and couldn't bear to hurt the other.

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    2. I actually believe that the game produced Peter's image for a different reason. Ender was terrified of his older brother because of his constant death threats. I think the game produced Peter's image to instill fear, or produce another seemingly impossible obstacle. Like the giant, and the children that turned into wolves, Peter is a fear and obstacle that Ender must overcome.

      As for the question concerning how the computer designed Peter to be in the game, somehow the computer has taken its own course and began programming on its own. How? No one knows.

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  25. My question is what do the people in charge of the game actually want to do with Ender? Are they really preparing him to fight the buggers or do they have a bigger picture in mind?

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  26. What is it about children in Ender's world that makes them better contestants for becoming Captains against an entire Alien species? Was Mazer Rackham a child?

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  27. Why do they think that even though Ender is smarter than an average launchie he4 will still act and connect with the others?

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    1. They believe that he still have creativity as a child thus sill being able to connect with other but this creativity is below his age thus him being superior.

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  29. my question is why not recruit someone with more experience than that of ender. hes a i believe a six year old boy, i don't see why the need such a young boy. they're taking away his childhood which are the best years of his life. i dont think that fair for him. plus hes six years old, how could he possibly be of any use against the buggers. they should have someone who has already fought against the buggers since he or she may be a bit more experienced.

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  30. I keep forgetting that kids are the ones being talked about and going into battle..not adults. They act so much like adults and go throught these mature type of experiences and situations. What is Card's reason for choosing children to be the main characters in the book?

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    1. I think he is trying to point out the potentail that a child has but I think Card goes a little to far by making these child characters unrealistically smart for thier age. No child at the age of six would be ready to be trained for battle in the real world, they barely know how to spell thier name at that age.

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  31. Why are they specifically taking children? Is the rest of their army so pitiful that they have resorted to choosing near-fetuses to train for battle.
    It not just unrealistic, It just seems like no premise was made to explain exactly why they are specifically hunting down the children for their war.

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  32. I dont understand why adults and military commanders are willing to take the innocence of a child away at age six and then turn that child into a killling machine. It is hard to rap my mind around the fact that once these children leave the military that all they will know is killing and the grimacing facts of war.

    My question is, do you think that this is a humane thing to do to these children, and is it worth it?

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  33. They talk about how we don't need to win the war, and that is suppose to be a joke, black humor, and it throws up a flag to why this is even necessary.
    My question is, will this be what will actually happen when some one starts to realize what the war is about, also is this foreshadowing or really bad humor by the author?

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  34. Ender's life gets controlled and shifted by all these adult decisions and it's because he's a child that he's the focus. Ender doesn't read as a kid would. But I assume this was done on purpose to make children seem 'not all that different' from adults. But it does distract from the story sometimes. I grew up in a gifted program, though. So I feel for Ender. The pressure to make big changes because you have all this ~potential~ and stressing about it. I get it.

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  35. one question that I have is: in class we discussed the introduction and how the author is commenting on childhood and how kids are being underestimated in our society and how they should be treated better. yet in their society kids are being controlled and manipulated like toys. Don't you think that in fact kids are being treated better in our society than in their society?
    - In the book, the idea of childhood doesnt exist anymore. No one is taking into consideration that the kid is only 7 and half of the things he is doing is dangrous.

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  36. I don't really have any questions but just a thought possess I like to share. In chapter eight when Ender goes to the end of the world in the game he plays on his desk he sees Peter in the mirror. What is Ender is right that he is Peter and the better version cause he is still a mirror version of Peter just more advanced and in the end Ender is a killer but a better killer where killing doesn't mix into his personality because he is the better version. Like a quote there that said "To be half Peter and Half Valentine," What if Ender is both of them because over time he was influence by both so truly Ender is a killer yet can still be sweet and caring like Valentine but mixed in a cruel way because of Peter.

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  37. I felt that the way the children are presented in the book actually does accurately depict children in real life. From what I have seen (when I was "young" haha), children actually are that mean. When they interact with each other, they don't really know how to express their feelings "properly", so they resort to name calling and violence. I think that the author writes the children this way in order to remind the audience that despite learning and knowing military tactics and actions, these people are still immature kids.

    One question I have is whether or not any of you think whether Bugger technology has finally been matched by human technology, or whether both sides advanced their weapons, but still remain as mismatched as in the first war

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  38. Although there are not many children that are as intelligent as Peter, Valentine, or Ender there is obviously still a population of them. These children are exceptionally smart and pass the knowledge of college professors. These children are ultimately bred to be soldiers, commanders, leaders! Despite the fact they are children, they are still powerful. That being said, why don't the parents and other adults fear the capabilities of these children? Or why don't they take precautions so that children won't be able to rule the world like Peter and Valentine are trying to do?

    Peter seems to have changed tremendously, but I still don't trust him. I think that by trying to reach out to Valentine, he was making himself seem vulnerable but was really just trying to manipulate his sister. Valentine is also aware of this, but decides to go along with his plan of world domination anyway. I feel that maybe she hopes that Peter has really changed, but I'm waiting for him to return to his serial killer ways.

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  39. I feel it justified in a sense that children are used for war

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  40. What drove Peter to begin influencing the world? He's just a thirteen year old and already he's mapped out a plan to steer the world in his direction.

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  41. As i read the book and as several prior comments have stated, it is difficult to remember that the characters and people in battle school are children. When the kids were sobbing over missing their parents that first night at first i thought that these kids knew what they were getting themselves into, they had no reason to cry but then i remembered they were around 6 years old at an age where you are still fully dependent of your parents even if you are a genius/super child.

    My question is what is the expectation of being mature to the "leaders" of the battle school? (the kids are already acting pretty mature) Also, even though these kids are more intelligent than the average kids their age, are the parents and adults even more intelligent than their kids?

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  42. What is it about War and Children that seems to get the creative juices flowing. The sub title for Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughter House 5 was ''The Children's Crusade". Vonnegut writes about how WW2 was full of children and not men going into battle. And now here is Ender's game. So what is it about War and Children?

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  43. I was wondering why did Ender agree to go with Graff, even though he had the right to decide for himself. If he wanted to, he could have stayed home but he vouched to go to the Battle School instead. Was it because he saw the Battle School as a way to get away from Peter and his tyranny, or did he somehow feel pressured to join?

    Also, I'd like to add that human nature will probably play a significant role throughout the book. Even though Ender has a higher intelligence than the average six-year-old, he still feels alienated when he is with the other boys because he just feels left out. He doesn't feel like he belongs, and I feel that Ender will suffer from this sort of alienation throughout the majority of the book. He is also considered to be the "teacher's pet", which might further alienate him from his peers.

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    1. I feel like going to Battle School provided a way to get away from his psychotic older brother. But more importantly, I think Ender decided to go because he wanted to be able to protect his sister. He couldn't stand the idea of his sister getting blown up by buggers. He wanted to be able to protect her like she has done for him all of these years.

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  44. My question is:

    why are all of the adults manipulating the children in the book to become great commanders by lying and bending the truth so that they are kept in the dark? Do they not think the kids can handle it?
    I wonder why Ender decided to kill the giant in the game instead of giving up.

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  45. The military in Ender's Game is no different than the actually Military of our time, in which they willing to put anything on the line, even a person's mental state of mind, in order to breed the perfect soldier. Just like how the game dug into Ender's memories of Peter and Valentine in order to help him progress in the game and become a better soldier.

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  46. Related to what Dink was saying, why are Americans in charge of the battle school and the I.F. if there students come from all over the world? Why are they in charge of the bugger war?

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  47. So Ender's Game is about kids in a fake war. While the idea of training kids for war is a bit wrong, they will not actually be fighting until theyre older so my question is whats wrong with that?

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    1. It's like Halo, the children are being trained to become better soldiers to win the war against a superior race. But you're destroying their lives to raise them as weapons, (Read Halo: The Fall of Reach, for similar view on weaponizing children)>

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  48. *Was Ender's decision to abandon his home and take part in the training justifiable?

    *The most notable feature portrayed in Ender's character is his similarity to every teenager's dilemma- the struggle to push through difficult times while also maintaining the maturity and outward appearance of an adult. Ender's effort to prove his capabilities through training so that he could stand out of the crowd reflects the lives of those attending school- striving to work hard to make yourself appear exceptional so that you can be accepted. The contingency between these two themes is what makes Ender's Game such a relatable book in today's society where everyone tries to stand out of the crowd and not be seen as "average".

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  49. THEY'RE NOT EVEN SURE WHY THEY'RE EVEN FIGHTING THE BUGGERS??? It could all just be a misunderstanding? What?! So they just threw out the option of even making peace or trying to communicate with them out the window? Also after so many victories and brilliant combat strategies, in the end Ender still just wanted to go home, he even still cried after defending himself again, except this time he murdered the fellow. The book is empowering this kid, but the way he reacts to it just takes away the whole feel good feeling of watching Ender overcome his tasks.

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  50. My question is:

    Ever since Ender was forced in the I.F. at age 6, he has been true to his feelings and felt sad all the time because he was forced into making terrible actions in order for him to survive his environment.

    Why does Ender still hold on to his feelings, even after four years?
    Are his emotions his only reminder of his sanity?
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    It seems almost realistic that the I.F. mistreats Ender by isolating him and putting him through obstacles in order to prepare himself for the bugger war. It would not be recommended to teach Ender how to become a commander by giving him baby-steps or asking him nicely to learn to toughen up, because an Earth savior was needed immediately in order to be prepared for the bugger war. This deliberate tactic makes me think about how us students could learn in school. Wouldn't we be better off learning our studies in a cruel and life-provoking manner, the same way Ender was pushed to his survival? Ender was further pressured, knowing that his command may be the only thing that can save humanity.

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